In this episode, Larissa interviews Dr. Uahikea Maile - a Kanaka Maoli Indigenous Hawaiian who is a professor of Indigenous politics at the University of Toronto, as well as an activist. They discuss Indigenous sovereignty and settler colonialism through the lens of the Thirty Meter Telescope project in Hawaii, which aims to build a telescope on the top of Mauna Kea - a sacred mountain to Indigenous Hawaiians and part of un-ceded national Hawaiian lands. Larissa and Dr. Maile also talk about how colonialism exists and is reinforced through state and educational institutions, both of which are contributing massive funds for the Thirty Meter Telescope project. Drawing on the annexation of Hawaii and its stolen lands, Dr. Maile also speaks about how settler science is a form of techno-scientific conquest and a continuation of colonialism.